Maple Glazed Podcast

E5 Thanksgiving Holiday is like a Cult

November 23, 2021 Zac & Murph Season 1 Episode 5
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E5 Thanksgiving Holiday is like a Cult
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Fat season is here, Thanksgiving is this week although Murph is going out of town for the holiday he's going to have plenty of stories especially in this episode when he talks about some of the Canadian Thanksgiving influence.  Zac dips into some recent new shows/movies while still missing Halloween.  Enjoy the long canadian american rambling on this fifth episode of the podcast. It's gonna bee a doozy and a bit culty. 





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Murph:

What's going on Zach and listeners is like, I can't capture that again.

Zac Saleski:

I really can't.

Murph:

I'm one and done.

Zac Saleski:

Welcome to Maple glaze the home of one American one Canadian who bicker at each other because electronics are my job and I didn't do it correctly. Welcome. Thank you.

Murph:

Still getting good those intros still getting good. I don't know how long you take to write them but they're good.

Zac Saleski:

I don't it's in the big noggin of mine is a big this is where you're going to ASMR now yeah, you missed out on it.

Murph:

I know I know you're right to say and then I speak really loud assault your ears

Zac Saleski:

I'm done. Yep. I agree.

Murph:

I bring in loads and then I just slap it away.

Zac Saleski:

Oh, always count on Murph to abuse your yours.

Murph:

Oh, yeah, that's what you did not sign up for this podcast not to have your holes abused. That

Zac Saleski:

would be what

Murph:

you're holding me.

Zac Saleski:

Oh, I thought some clues remind

Murph:

me got it. Well, it's my job.

Zac Saleski:

I'm Tyler here to abuse all kinds of holes. Thank you. kind of done.

Murph:

And we've lost our listeners. It's really dark right? It's what happens when we're sober.

Zac Saleski:

So when someone gives us some oh man suppresses Hey, we got done the first talk. Finally why claw whatever. Hi news in case you're feeling a little adventurous right?

Murph:

Press better. True. Some bluevine Oh, it's about time for that season. Right? Is that true in Germany is about time

Zac Saleski:

for that. It's getting close. Nice close. It's gonna be a hell of a time. On times. I'm down for some glue Vaughn. Right. Yes, but some new news coming up. We are on all social medias now.

Murph:

I instead face

Zac Saleski:

Insta face. We've created some my face Facebook. All of them. Twitter. Backdoor alley and backdoor alley.

Murph:

I'm actually on the wrong side on that one. No, no, there's pictures of us on it though.

Zac Saleski:

Some weird stuff going on. A lot of

Murph:

weird confusing not sure what to think of messages because of that one. But yeah,

Zac Saleski:

we we only follow one person and that's a tiny meeting. Because why not?

Murph:

Let's keep calling them out. I like it. Yeah. No, we're just we're just posers. We're trying to meet game posers. You

Zac Saleski:

know what? Cody Ko is a poser because he even though he's Canadian, but as like you know what? I got a I got a more authentic 1am I know what the back me up? Like yes, yeah,

Murph:

sure. They're a

Zac Saleski:

he grew up in Canada.

Murph:

If I chuck it on the spot,

Zac Saleski:

Sarah, Sara, there we go.

Murph:

I'm done here. I gotta leave. I'm

Zac Saleski:

not some ham over there. What the hell's wrong with them?

Murph:

Wow. Anyway, I want to see us eat ham and drink syrup or on all the socials.

Zac Saleski:

And as of this past week, we got our very first patron Mojo Jim, thank you so much.

Murph:

I love the name. Every time I hear it. I just think Mojo Jojo from Powerpuff Girls, JoJo, Mojo Mojo.

Zac Saleski:

So you ever will have it after after last podcast and say, Well, you know, someone, someone you know, becomes a patron Merce got to do with money dance. Do I really? I mean,

Murph:

I don't know. Okay, we didn't we didn't script what my money dance would be.

Zac Saleski:

I think you're just so horrified by the idea of it. We were like I actually kind of was I was fine with it. I was hoping no one was gonna call my blog. Full Mojo called I

Murph:

mean, I'm not really and give me the send like two weeks since I've worked out so no one wants to see what's going on under

Zac Saleski:

here and there. Oh, national. Do black.

Murph:

Donate a big about

Zac Saleski:

No, no, a whole lot. Okay, but no, maybe

Murph:

maybe we should put a threshold on it.

Zac Saleski:

Sounds like you're scared. I'm afraid. Well, you know what it pays about? I think for how much I pay for the podcast, I think probably pays about 90% of it. Oh, wow. Okay,

Murph:

so we're cheap. Yeah, we are. We're very cheap or very, very cheap. Very cheap ground floor. Cheap. Ground floor floor. Actually a ground floor or like the basement ground

Zac Saleski:

floor. No blankets. We're just using saran wrap as a pillow.

Murph:

Wow, that was really specific. Yeah, sounds it sounds like you've been there before.

Zac Saleski:

Hey, everyone hits rock bottom bro. This very special edition of maple. Yo COVID

Murph:

I hope not. Okay, gotcha. Kevin pay for COVID test. True dat Trudeau

Zac Saleski:

through that, man. I gotta be On this flight tomorrow, bird pay about 200 bucks. Let's go. You want to know if you do dirty or not haunted?

Murph:

Dirty. What is STD test? Well, he's taking me off first. Got him. That was at you're just forcing it now. Exactly. Just welcome. Yeah, thank you. You're better than you

Zac Saleski:

know what I was good up until this point leave me alone. Five minutes in. Here go Gosh, only

Murph:

five minutes. We might need alcohol

Zac Saleski:

therapists Oh John's. Oh, what a week it has been

Murph:

a short one. It's gonna be a short week though.

Zac Saleski:

It is very giving. This is a weird Thanksgiving week. We're gonna take I don't want to do I use the term hiatus?

Murph:

No. Hiatus is a long time. We're only taking a week off. It's

Zac Saleski:

like seeing a Vita Zane. We're not taking a long time off.

Murph:

Just a quick little quick little short. Quick logo Boss. Boss, Boss, Boss, boss. Boss button pause. And I'm never coming back.

Zac Saleski:

No, we are gonna take probably two weeks.

Murph:

Yeah. Roughly. Wait, maybe. So it'd be? Well, it'd be the week after Thanksgiving off and then I'd be back the Monday after that. Okay. Yeah. So about two weeks pretty close.

Zac Saleski:

So Murphy is actually going to go visit his family and learn dad northeast. So he'll be out in New York.

Murph:

The Windy City.

Zac Saleski:

city that never eats

Murph:

Exactly. Exactly. Got him. Not a whole lot going on. I'll find something to do.

Zac Saleski:

It'll be out in New York just kind of experiencing everything. He'll also

Murph:

get just gonna stand on a street corner and yell at people like this what they do in New York. think so too. Yeah, sounds about right. I've practice my German. See who catches it?

Zac Saleski:

I don't know he's gonna get to that then be like, yeah, exactly. This guy just sits in the corner and yells at pigeons in German.

Murph:

Sounds pretty normal

Zac Saleski:

show just chucking breadcrumbs that people have walked by

Murph:

now that cost money I do it for free. I do free things. I don't I don't buy things when I go crazy.

Zac Saleski:

So if you see Murph hoarding giant animal rats, right like humanoid robots, I shall take them. Yes. Then say hello. I

Murph:

think that the Sewer Gators there, so I'm gonna try and find them too.

Zac Saleski:

There you go. Yeah. Make sure you enter the Ninja Turtles too. While you're at it.

Murph:

Oh, come on, man. No, they don't exist.

Zac Saleski:

That's not right.

Murph:

They die now. Thank you for that. Unfortunately, they were pretty old on the 90s Oh, man, they're so popular.

Zac Saleski:

Way to start this merch God. Five world. Oh, God. The hell's this crap. I

Murph:

didn't realize you'd get so sad.

Zac Saleski:

Come on. probably dead. Everyone passes. I know. Everyone passes and Everyone Poops.

Murph:

There you go. Exactly. So I mentioned Butan lifespans a lot shorter. You feel like you put a lot of a lot of like, a lot of shit on your system for that one. Like, you know, byes went through a lot of unnatural changes like

Zac Saleski:

what do you think doctor? A lot of shooting the system right? Exactly. It's not gonna make

Murph:

it misspent dad was a dad and some waste. Some industrial waste.

Zac Saleski:

I only did a couple of lines of poo. Now it's too much waste

Murph:

too much. Way too much waste.

Zac Saleski:

Boy a man. So what's, what's the game plan? Where? What's happening? What's what's when you had now what's going

Murph:

on today? So it'll be well, I don't know when you're gonna release this, but two days from a word when we're recording. So that 24th Right. Yeah, yeah. 24th I don't know why I always think 24th Thanksgiving, but it's the Thursday not really like yeah, it's right. Yeah, it's weird. But yeah, Wednesday after work, flying out. Gotta go to DC first and then go to New York. Always fun way to do that stuff. I'm going to a town outside of New York called White Plains. Yeah, fly right in and then I will be there for the week. And then the one of the few opportunities occurs where I'm staying for the week because then Connor comes into town, and they play the Rangers. So and then they also play one other team near the Rangers. So we're gonna go to two games and then I will come back. And then when they come back, it is Christmas season which Zack has Halloween. Me and the rest of America have Christmas and that's how we do things

Zac Saleski:

we call me and the rest of society.

Murph:

If you go back if you go back to some other podcast topics, you've been very, you've had a little bit of disdain for Christmas, which I understand is become a very corporate holiday. I don't like celebrating it like that, but I understand where some people don't like it.

Zac Saleski:

I'll be honest, this year has been a little bit different. because people I don't know why maybe this year is different but they're not like shoving Christmas in your face too much this year not as bad as other years. The store the stores are but radio. It really? I mean maybe just me radio station,

Murph:

right? No no it's not too bad they just

Zac Saleski:

haven't really Cuz usually as soon as like the first or second day November yeah all right Christmas music let's go

Murph:

you know what you're right like the commercials are Christmassy but they're not too Christmassy and I think that's it. There's also like, you watch football stuff on the weekend and they're not. They're not like, Yeah, I'm not really like talking about it yet. True, but that's gonna change after Thanksgiving.

Zac Saleski:

Let's that's fine, which is fine. I don't mind that. Yeah, but it's like

Murph:

what you thought they would have pushed it more because especially in the US that's when a lot of spending happens and we really need to spend it right now. Oh, yes, we do after COVID When people didn't buy anything.

Zac Saleski:

Speaking COVID Get your shots,

Murph:

right. Booster booster Isn't that a little a little cynical view to say

Zac Saleski:

fine yeah Shut up. Yeah, exactly. Get your boosters little steroids

Murph:

you just need to get your shot

Zac Saleski:

I'm clean but no it's been a it's been a good holiday season there has been like it's been pretty tone for the most part. I've been happy with that it's not been overwhelming. I'm hoping that once this thing starts to kind of carry up and when I was worried that like right around certain stores over here they started to carry some Christmas stuff like right around Halloween. Here we go. Yeah, but they kind of like calmed it down a little bit. So it's it's been okay it's not ready for the cold that's all

Murph:

right. The whole swing here soon well we we've already had snow even like to snow showers. Just didn't collect yeah to pull 130 something outside right now. So which is like zero degrees Celsius? Yeah, okay, you I know I do I try to be worldly Try. Try. I am I try.

Zac Saleski:

So if I was trying to tell Murph so I got so we're Murphy is going is not too far from like where I have some family currently living. So I'm actually kind of happy because he gets experience. A lot of good stuff over there. You got bakeries. And you've got Oh, you got plenty of pizza places and then not too far. You got sleep, y'all.

Murph:

So I'm back on Sleepy Hollow.

Zac Saleski:

I love it.

Murph:

I love it. So I asked him what do I do when I see the Headless Horseman and he didn't give me an answer. So I guess I'm gonna lose my head.

Zac Saleski:

No, I told you to take off your pants run. Oh, yes, that's right. That's how it

Murph:

works. Gotcha. I think that attract them more.

Zac Saleski:

You know what, for some reason you take off your pants before like a fight. People get weird out works every time.

Murph:

Have to test that will say well to test that.

Zac Saleski:

So you want to go bro? Pants off. You're like, what are you doing here?

Murph:

I definitely Oh, it definitely makes me think twice. Is that definitely like I would I would step back for a second. I

Zac Saleski:

just need that second. You're good.

Murph:

Yeah, that's true. Very true. It's like Trailer Park Boys every time that's what he was doing. take his pants off every time you got to fight someone. Like you also need to wear tighty whities. Isn't it looks even weirder. That's true. So I'm more of a briefs guy. So I feel like it will look like an MMA fighter. Whereas like yeah tighty whities on looks weird. Like a speedo

Zac Saleski:

drive everybody crazy it's like Murph

Murph:

if if that breath someone's engine then

Zac Saleski:

added on to the podcast right Wikipedia page here we go.

Murph:

Right ASMR and briefs briefs are you wearing a go gadget. You guys are calling in your briefs? Of course. You just got it like babbling brook in there some babbling Oh, yeah. Wow. We're pulling out the big language here.

Zac Saleski:

Wow. Picture books.

Murph:

Oh, yes. Yes. Picture books. I don't know how to respond to that just Yes, picture books.

Zac Saleski:

Boy we're just gonna write his own book now. Children book

Murph:

ASMR children in the Burgos

Zac Saleski:

Bab infamous Brook tabernacles

Murph:

Xboxes go Wow, they're so accurate. Oh, man, I make picture books anymore. Like everyone just gets on the internet now. Like I feel like books are like, not a thing anymore. Kids just on the internet, youtube and all that stuff.

Zac Saleski:

You know what's funny? Wow, good segue

Murph:

right? You're welcome

Zac Saleski:

now, I was trying to find a book that like I I read as a kid. I've been looking for this for like three years. I can never find like the name of it but for some riada good

Murph:

Debbie to be tough when you don't know the name of the book you're looking for. I'm just

Zac Saleski:

typing in like that inner storm book. Books about thunderstorms during the 90s Something like that some crazy Okay, and so finally narrowed it down but it's funny cuz I looked it up I found it by apparently they're all those older books that we grew up with. They're they're putting that on YouTube. And they're having random people read it to him. I was like,

Murph:

I mean, next video idea. We'll start reading

Zac Saleski:

we're gonna we're gonna destroy that ratio.

Murph:

Oh, yeah, let's do it. Guys was really our next podcast which is read books. Making ASMR noises Oh god I'm turning on my childhood ruin to I don't know do

Zac Saleski:

you talk about what's in his boxers now you're reading a book? Yeah. Man many many talents. Many

Murph:

and many discussion points.

Zac Saleski:

First, 10 minutes, books, briefs, boxer briefs. ASMR trouser snake. Babbling get their babbling brook. Wow.

Murph:

I love these tags. You're gonna put on this

Zac Saleski:

I'm gonna milk this thing out. Oh, God. It was funny. I was trying to find some talking points for the podcast. So you know what, we got to find something that is just, that's just so out there and unique. I was like, trying to like obviously you have crazy stories from the US and how terribly retarder we are sometimes.

Murph:

But yeah, that's that's even been Yeah. Where America? Yeah, yeah, you just look in Florida. That's all oh my gosh, but Texas, California.

Zac Saleski:

But the one thing I was thinking about was like, Alright, there's got to be some Canada where maybe someone just went off the rail using their damn mind. I was like, Alright, let me try. Just find something. The worst thing of of anything I found was basically Canada man was just really into UFOs. That's it. So that what

Murph:

everybody does. Oh, are you looking for comedy or just for like,

Zac Saleski:

I'm just looking for crazy news stories. something out there. Yeah. Okay, that's that's the only That's the craziest thing that popped up. Like, you got to be kidding me. This is

Murph:

like no one ever wants to report on it. Yeah, I mean, it's almost wintertime up there. People are hunkering down it's gonna get gets cold up there.

Zac Saleski:

So of course people believe in UFOs His name is Dan Ackroyd.

Murph:

Zelda said yes, he does. I know. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, he's Yes. His

Zac Saleski:

own vodka company. Yep. Yeah. With the with the guys ever go to stores? At least in the US. I think they have it overseas too, if I'm right, cuz I thought I saw overseas. I think it's called Crystal Skull. But Crystal Skull vodka, and that's made by Dan Ackroyd. You know, from

Murph:

he actually, he has a house in the town that my parents have a cottage in like, oh town, so he likes my own. Yeah, he like bought up all the land because, like people were so what happens is, Toronto is getting so big. So imagine like, obviously, like New York. Yeah. But it's getting so big that they're now expanding out and they're expanding to smaller towns, and like and also to, they're getting tired of city life. So they're buying cottages to get away for the weekend. When they buy these places. They see them as retirement. So then they like buy more land to like putting shops and coffee and all that. So Dan Ackroyd la Sydenham Ontario loves it so much that he just bought up a lot of the land and he kept most of that farmland. Wow. So like, yeah, so he just has farmland that he rents out to local farmers for hay and stuff like that. Right? Exactly. So you'll be like, you'll be sitting in this little diner having food and you'll see this really nice like, 60s Cadillac, like light blue or pink driving down the road. And you'll be like, yeah, no, it's great. Like, no biggie. Yeah, he's got a he's got a house in the area. Like a nice house. Yeah, that's like, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. It's really cool. Small world. Buddies. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Zac Saleski:

That'd be cool. Just to like, go get some coffee, like a good day and awkward,

Murph:

right? That's just though it's kind of funny because it's such a small town. Like, they don't have like, the typical chain coffees. So you don't go like a Starbucks or Tim Hortons or like a McDonald's in the town. Like, it's just like, just all these little local businesses. Yeah, it's like, it's really weird. So yeah, it's pretty funny.

Zac Saleski:

Segue. Yeah, I saw Ghostbusters.

Murph:

Anyone? Yeah, what do you think? Thanks for what to see without me, Dick. Oh, you

Zac Saleski:

know what? You're busy doing stuff. Honestly, I got back. I got back in. I suppose he was one of the guys go to the gym with but then he was like I'm going to Browns game like I take as a call I get it, but I come back from the gym and I was like well my dad's like hey you want to go see Ghostbusters? Yeah, let's do it so I'm gonna go with my dad my brother and I we get to the movie theater I'm not kidding you walk up and there's like there's a bunch of like random like family cars that are all like parked out front there's like four of them they kind of like dress them up was like Ecto one oh my gosh I'm like are you kidding me? He's just what we're doing he's so

Murph:

I think they would have killed if they released a German Halloween like not now but

Zac Saleski:

they would have I don't know why they didn't honestly but as I'm walking them closer to it I see like four guys like whole overweight and they're like dressed up as to Ghostbusters and like cool yeah I asked one of them was like you guys ever just gonna like go inside like cuz you know they're showing the movie Yeah, yeah, we got to take it for tonight like way out here then or cars out here coincide I don't understand what waiting out here whatever.

Murph:

But you know good to be fans of something but when like there's not a lot of people around like what's the point? What's the point?

Zac Saleski:

But I've got to say Ghostbusters was so I don't know how to like describe it it was so like good good. Okay, but I don't know why I got really nostalgic not because like it's been so long. Whatever right? But maybe I'm just like been flogging too long so I noticed different styles of like cinematography but they they brought back like the old style at nine oh that's kind of style cinematography where they kind of would just get like they would just like pan out on the city or like the town they're in and then have like the the subject kind of walk into it and have like two different conversations going as they're kind of unfolding the main kind of seeing like he just don't see that everything's just so quick cut quick cut nowadays. Like

Murph:

wow, so they built they do they build in the story good like really well lay off the old movies well or cuz I know they referenced them a little bit in the originals

Zac Saleski:

it plays heavily off of the first one okay. And it kind of takes some of that story to this one but the way they take like the the newer characters with the older ones they did a really good job Nice. Now towards the end it kind of got like it cut when they introduce some of the some of the older characters they kind of like try not to spoil it but they when they introduced like some of the older characters it kind of got cheesy little

Murph:

girl okay, but it's always going to like Yeah,

Zac Saleski:

but honestly it was actually the way they developed the store was actually really good.

Murph:

Do you think they set it up enough that they will like make more or do we think it's like a one and done kind of thing

Zac Saleski:

you know, I thought that it was going to be one done by I think the new characters did such a good job. You could see maybe one or two but they would have to keep that director there gotcha but i i gotta say this though. They did like a kind of like a memorial tribute thing to help ramus who died in 2014 Okay, when the original Ghostbusters and the way they did it was really really really good it's the very beginning the movie but they did such a good job nice it was you know

Murph:

that's awesome All right, definitely check it out

Zac Saleski:

but yeah, Cory was really good and that's why I had to bring him out he's like here you go and kept using his Canadian accent the whole time like straight he's anything he's the O's we're just caring for their great

Murph:

Hannity long apparently he sticks stayed up there during COVID just been there too long talking to people

Zac Saleski:

you tells him I like to get out and like he tell us fighting the O's on that one's like

Murph:

cheese man that's hilarious

Zac Saleski:

goals are

Murph:

very very good goes or return goals are

Zac Saleski:

oh my gosh, goals are there buddy. You got to get out of here. Like what? What is this? Just all these demigods are getting confused like this English Canadian.

Murph:

Hi, erotica like Samuel Jackson I'm damn sick and tired of these damn Timmy.

Zac Saleski:

I taught the damn movie thinking my god damn dialect geez, boy these audio peaks gonna be great.

Murph:

Oh yeah. Oh people that we got pretty loud. That one people that your drums is gonna explode on that one.

Zac Saleski:

I just I don't do

Murph:

ASMR aggressive Yeah. You know what I was excited about though cuz I love Paul Rudd. So I was excited to see him. He was he was wasn't good. He was feeling he's not he's rarely bad at a movie like,

Zac Saleski:

was kind of worried at the beginning it was very much like a. He's kind of like this. He kind of like a nerdy ish guy,

Murph:

right? That is a science teacher, right? Yeah. Yeah, he's

Zac Saleski:

a science teacher. But he, he kind of he's very much like that dad type of role, right? Kind of nerdy ish does what he wants, but oh, it was really the way they wrote a man who actually was pretty good and his performance is great. He hardly misses

Murph:

on that stuff. Nice. Okay. But now they're,

Zac Saleski:

you know, us Missourians are actually made from Kansas. The hell with that job. Nevermind,

Murph:

well, another great segue. Yeah, I saw he just got voted Sexiest Man Alive.

Zac Saleski:

Whoo. Yeah, but he's sexy.

Murph:

I mean, I feel like there's some other guys that make some good, good runs that I'm like, true. Ryan Reynolds still got to go there. He always holds up pretty good. Like he's aging. Well, like that's, you know, you know what, like, at age like him, like, you know, sorry, to Asia, but like, we're, we're out. I got some prospects here, then I'm aged really well. Got the gray hair coming, too. So I don't know. We'll see. But

Zac Saleski:

you know, what will allow us you know, people from the KC area give us a little bit of moment, but they got a Canadian code, isn't it? I'll tell you what, Ryan Reynolds. Exactly. So you gotta he's he's an international

Murph:

thing. It's an international thing. I mean, you know, turf war, and Brad Pitt's not bad either. True.

Zac Saleski:

He's Missouri.

Murph:

Yeah, exactly. There you go. helping you out. I think you couldn't you could have done that.

Zac Saleski:

You know, Brad Pitt just oh, it was weird. Just chillin. Yeah. He's odd, dude. He's very odd. I feel like I think that was

Murph:

out and something recently. I don't know. Once upon a time in Hollywood, I thought, Tino made another thing that he was out in recently, but maybe not. No. Oh, man. It's kind of been a weird year for movies and not releasing because of the COVID they just kind of had to stop production of a lot of things. So

Zac Saleski:

like, Ghostbusters supposed to come out last year, right. So I can only imagine like doing the press tours now. Like, what do you remember? It's been a year and a half show. Right? Yeah.

Murph:

I don't know. At least a year and a half ago. That's

Zac Saleski:

what I remember. It was cool. Yeah. Buy tickets.

Murph:

Right? Like Stranger Things like stop teases. Just release it. Like everyone like everyone's wanting that for so like, I'm so pumped for that. And I'm like, I just keep playing with it. You're like, Come on, just put it out there. It's kind of odd. Let's do it. Yeah. Ready to binge something.

Zac Saleski:

I'll tell you what, though. That Stranger Things was interesting. The I lost so much. Interest in third. I don't know. I was like, in and out of that. Of that last season. Yeah, it definitely because they were stretching it

Murph:

went too far. Yeah, I went in which I'm worried about the new one. But I mean, I'm just like anything. I'm gonna try it. We'll see what happens. I was in the new one should be good. Yeah. But yeah, they definitely are. You're right. There are definitely moments where I'm like, you just wasted an episode. Like he's like, he's like building a storyline when you didn't need to, you know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. I was creating all those weird love triangles and things. It was just like, just move on. This is a movie you want.

Zac Saleski:

That's someone's child. No love triangles.

Murph:

Yes, exactly. Yes.

Zac Saleski:

Love squares.

Murph:

You see they came out with second Tiger King. I'm going to end up watching it too. Which is gonna come out. Yeah, it's out now. Now. It is it is out when it come out. No, it was on Netflix. Last night. I saw it was on I didn't put it on. I watched Seinfeld instead. But I think it was it's like past few days. It's been out so I don't what are they supposed to be covering again? Is it Carol bass? No Kara. bassins off of it now, right?

Zac Saleski:

No, big. What? No. Oh, see? Okay. That's the name of so. Okay. So November 17. Okay, DME. I thought I told you no, because I just watched the trailer as a God can't wait for that to come out.

Murph:

What are they? What are they covering? Up the store was done?

Zac Saleski:

No. So like after the the first one. It was crazy. That's where all this. So the fame of it just took off. And yeah, they reopened the case with Carol Baskins and her ex husband. Because they started getting a bunch of new new leads. And so people are like, you know, damn well, stupid people watching the show. Like, I know that sumbitch Carole Baskin did, obviously killed her husband. She threw that that feller in the Tigers.

Murph:

Oh my God,

Zac Saleski:

I know it. I've seen it.

Murph:

I kind of wish they would do that one guy that was like the guru guy that was like running it called. Was he in it? Remember? Yeah,

Zac Saleski:

no, he said the second.

Murph:

The first one. He was seven briefly. I was I loved him in the second like that was creepy, but like that guy was smart. Like he knew what he was doing like that guy was well

Zac Saleski:

That's the thing with him. I was people, people used to give me crap for that. Because like, Oh my God, he's taking advantage of girls like, but the thing is, though, if you have never had women, you're just like, Oh, you're just in thrall by like, Oh, this is, this is great. I have women and you don't think about anything else. But he's just like, alright. Alright, I know where my womens at. And now I got to know where, where everyone behind my back is so I don't get charged for anything. Like he's just like, always on. He always got an eye on something just so like no one's on attack to get them prosecuted. I was like, Wow, this dude is so aware. He's just, it's all

Murph:

scares me how entertaining you've been? This guy's running like a call. You're like, it's so fascinating.

Zac Saleski:

I'm fascinated by people who can like take on three different transplant. I'm good, bro. Like, how, how, right? You shouldn't be? Yeah, it's like,

Murph:

I just found it funny. In the beginning of it. He was so open and they showed a lot of them. And then as they started getting more into life, he realized that he's like, Oh, Nikes and then he does like stopped and then like the ending of Tiger Can you just never saw him again. So it says

Zac Saleski:

here you dated her when she was 15. And the guy was like, No.

Murph:

Yeah. And he's like, setting a he huge bed that they

Zac Saleski:

like, like did so quickly, but it wasn't like obvious but he just like, as as a first instinct. Like, that makes sense. Wait, wait, wait. You ask?

Murph:

Right. You're right. You're gonna like You're like moving into the show. There. Wait. Oh, yeah. Hold on.

Zac Saleski:

We have a bunch of bodies in the back. Oh, look at the Tigers. Oh, wow. Wait, wait, wait.

Murph:

Yeah. This elephant look at all these things.

Zac Saleski:

Right on elephant. He did. Yeah, I think that's one of the scenes.

Murph:

He rides on an unknown fate. Yeah, exactly. I Gosh, that show like it's like I love

Zac Saleski:

this one my own battle elephants from Lord of the Rings. He liked him. It's like, okay,

Murph:

and all fairness, weird flex. They they use them in India. Way back in the day. Lots. So like, that's how Lord of the Rings got the idea? Oh, yeah, man. Could you imagine Jesus? Yeah, there's like you see, like, you're just like a foot soldier. And you just see this huge elephant and these like archers on top of it. And they're just charging at you.

Zac Saleski:

Those are easy to kill. Just get that just, you know, stab that big ol rope and just like Lego listed

Murph:

while he promised you ever see an elephant in your life at that point. So you just get what the heck is this big thing trumping towards me?

Zac Saleski:

I was more worried about like from test to test you got like the spikes and stuff?

Murph:

I don't think they have that. I don't think they had that on them by Oh, yeah.

Zac Saleski:

Those things were crazy, right?

Murph:

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Zac Saleski:

But the thing back to tie your cake.

Murph:

Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. state of elephant. Why we're apologizing. Always sidetrack.

Zac Saleski:

Yeah, those elephants were like, alright, God damn. So Tiger King. Like the crazy thing about that weird dude. Was like, he had that they were all weird dudes like, yes. But like, the sex cool guy. He's like, one little area, like where his house was. But he's like, oh, yeah, so that was weird. So this chick like her and I like her. And I started dating when she was like, 15 or 16. We start working with the park and then I got her house. So she lives right next to me. And so vice versa. You like three or four houses they give to women that he

Murph:

he fancies? Yeah, yes. Yeah. Then everyone else stays like tense.

Zac Saleski:

So this is bait. This is not these women are recruit other women. Seriously. It's yeah, it's like, are we not learning from everything else is going on?

Murph:

Right. Like remember when they talked about the things about like, Bro was going? Right? Draw they talk about the diet that they ought to be on diets? Oh, I forgot about Yeah, I had to reach like a certain age to be a certain weight.

Zac Saleski:

Listen, I saw you eat that. That.

Murph:

Snickers that cake was a trap.

Zac Saleski:

I told you. I told you one time I was going to happen. Move out of my house. Seriously, my house? No, it's still my house.

Murph:

There were parties, you know when like,

Zac Saleski:

you know, Ryan, elephant like,

Murph:

right. I've never met one in real life. But you know, when you seen those interviews when you talk to people that like, are in them, and they all had that you don't want to have that. Like, they're energetic with a weird energetic where they're like, Oh, what, like all over my leg and they're like, like, it's so great to meet you. And you're like, that's just that's like that's just creepy. Like it's it's

Zac Saleski:

it's fun. You say that cuz? Oh man. I just saw this a couple weeks ago. Smallville. Oh, yeah. I love that show. Well, you remember. Oh, the she's a happy go lucky girl. Like the blonde haired chick.

Murph:

Yeah, no, I saw she was an eight on HBO was crazy.

Zac Saleski:

So So Lex Luthor, a guy who played Lex Luthor. He has his own podcast. No way show that. Yeah. Really cool, dude. And like, he's talking about the time that he saw. Her name was I think Allison Mac. Yes. So he's talking about like, the first time he saw her and how many years and he's like he's Hey, how's it how's it going? She's like, Oh my god, I'm so happy to see what's like she was the whole conversation was off. And he's talking about like, how she was just kind of the conversation was like not really about her. She was all about him. And what he's doing what's going on oh boy, just like oh, you know, you want to hang out later. And so she she came over and next year know that it was the weirdest thing because she came over with it was her and I guess you could say like her, you know, handler or whatever. And so she kind of goes in, and he's like, What the hell's going on? As he opens the door to his house? She goes, right, the kitchen starts making food. He's like, the hell's going on. So this guy walks up. He's like, Oh, don't mind her. Like, she's got a she's gonna, you know, fix some food. He's like, Wait, you're my house. What the hell's happening is weird. So he's having this conversation. He's like, I just feel off. I just feel weird. And, and he's, the guy just asked me like, like, they're pretty generic questions, and I'm trying to deflect them like Allison was going on was she just like was so out of it whatnot. So eventually told him that you guys like, Listen, I'm happy to see you. But you get a leaf?

Murph:

Cheese. Yeah, they're trying to recruit them. Yeah. And

Zac Saleski:

apparently, it was like a month ago, because I don't know, sure they're doing the Netflix special on this or not. But they're, they're basically there's a videotape ever released when Alison, like, was just first there, at the center, where she actually meets the founder, and the woman who actually used to be in this sex cult, whatnot. She's like, in order, like, the fact that she met the founder within like, two weeks is so huge that you don't understand now. Yeah, but no way, the way he was talking to her, though, the conversation was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Because he was like, Well, what do you want to do with your life? And she's like, well, like, I just want to make people happy with my art and be creative and whatnot. Do go up to, to her. It's like, you know, you know, maybe what you find happy is not what, you know, other people will find, like, just as fulfilling as you. He was like, second guessing what she wanted to do with her life. Like

Murph:

I thought it was it was it was like an HBO thing. They had like a few, like, they have few episodes of it. Yeah. And it was like, she thinks she went to prison for two days. She would like, it was weird. Like, they and HBO, Netflix, they're all so good with this stuff, like starting to, like, you know, it's kind of like, those made it sound like a Tony Robbins kind of thing. We're like, the people that were made a lot of money, but they were lost in life and trying to figure it out. And the guy was like, Yo, this really nice, like, go getting kind of guy. And he's bringing basically, to a point where I was kinda like, I could see myself like joining. And then in like, because it was like networking, and like reading all these great people and people people were meeting their wives and husbands through and all this stuff. Yeah. And so then, but then like, it's what happens with these, these, like leaders like, they it's like they have too much power. So they start messing, and then they really didn't get away with it. And so like, He then started creating this like caste system of like scarf colors. And so they, yeah, and he got some people like oh my god, some people that were like his understudies that were like, really into it. So they of course, backed him up. So it was like he had to put in like millions of dollars and like hours to get this scarf stuff so that it basically became a full time job. And then, and then they recruit people, but you had to have a certain kind of, like, financial set to come in. And then the other thing though, that got me was, it seems like a lot of like, weird cult leaders do this was He then started like bringing in certain women. It's always I never heard this before he started, like demanding their diets and their weight. I don't know what it is. But it's like, it's like the weird, I have a very rude thing to say. I'm just gonna say, It seems like you've made it as a cult leader, if you can get women to control their diets and their weight. Like it seems to be a common practice with a lot of cult leaders, like controlling women like that, which like, baffles me, but it's just like, if they're like, it's like, they're like, Well, if you can control what they're eating and their weight, you got them and it's like, it makes like the weirdest sense to me. But, guys, like it's different for women. Like I fuckin I can put on 100 pounds, like, whatever, like I'm muscular even on fat.

Zac Saleski:

And you can dodge your way you can dodge Exactly.

Murph:

But like, seriously, you know, but like, that's serious. What happened to Allison Mack did that. Yeah, the the guru guy was like, hey, like, I want you to stop eating. And she didn't eat for like two months. Yeah, it was like it was it was weird

Zac Saleski:

when they found it. Like, they just like they're like, you know, she used to be so happy. But like, just bubbly is like yeah, this chick was just like, depressed. In in a

Murph:

nest with her mind. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And you get like, tells the documentary on the lawn. He was starting to realize his power. And he started like, trying to like test people. And he realized he was getting away with it. So he just like, had fun with people and just was like, whatever you want to frickin do like, like half. Like half the stuff these occult people do. They don't even really care. They just want to see they can get away with it. Like, basically. Yeah, it's weird. It's so weird.

Zac Saleski:

It's one of those things you do a once you start to realize All Damn, I got away with it. Yeah. Must be working